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Re: A guide to the different jobs available to Valiants

Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:28 pm

About Freya's Dragoon aura; Yes, she can triggered it by herself even nobody is around her.
 
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Re: A guide to the different jobs available to Valiants

Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:14 pm

Great job on the guide, hope you dont mind a few variants.

Darrion - Chaos Knight
I believe the reason that CK isnt as popular compare to the other Darrion's class is because his counterpart, Victoria, can function in a similar fashion except with lower stats. Nonetheless, its worth mentioning that CK could be the second tankiest class in the game if you consider his aura. Sure, the paladin has a little higher HP, but DEF scales much better than HP does. Again, with his aura, this class actually has the highest ATK stats for any guardian. Not only that, he possesses the extra mobility from his skill which other Darrion class doesnt. With the current meta, its apparent that his skill set is everything a guardian could have asked for to ensure a sweet 100 points in an arena battle. Unfortunately, he doesnt have much to offer when you are doing story/event stages.


Shizu - Ninja
A great addition to any party, Ninja Shizu is what I would refer as the Queen of farming. Be it story mode, gold mine or even the latest zombie horde, she can just refresh everyone every turn from the bottom of their feet as long as she can slaughter things. This is the class that makes farming much faster and easier. She may have a little trouble staying up alive in the later legendary stages, but with a little cover from a guardian, she still can get the job done. Her skill has the shortest CD for any 5* classes along with the Gunslinger, and that make her a solid choice for stealing capture point in the arena. It can also weaken the DEF on later tougher boss for your other units to quickly deliver the killing blow. Just like every other shadow class however, the class is pretty gear dependent, her overpowerness starts to shine more when you are nearing the end game stage.
 
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Re: A guide to the different jobs available to Valiants

Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:42 pm

Great job on the guide, hope you dont mind a few variants.

Darrion - Chaos Knight
I believe the reason that CK isnt as popular compare to the other Darrion's class is because his counterpart, Victoria, can function in a similar fashion except with lower stats. Nonetheless, its worth mentioning that CK could be the second tankiest class in the game if you consider his aura. Sure, the paladin has a little higher HP, but DEF scales much better than HP does. Again, with his aura, this class actually has the highest ATK stats for any guardian. Not only that, he possesses the extra mobility from his skill which other Darrion class doesnt. With the current meta, its apparent that his skill set is everything a guardian could have asked for to ensure a sweet 100 points in an arena battle. Unfortunately, he doesnt have much to offer when you are doing story/event stages.


Shizu - Ninja
A great addition to any party, Ninja Shizu is what I would refer as the Queen of farming. Be it story mode, gold mine or even the latest zombie horde, she can just refresh everyone every turn from the bottom of their feet as long as she can slaughter things. This is the class that makes farming much faster and easier. She may have a little trouble staying up alive in the later legendary stages, but with a little cover from a guardian, she still can get the job done. Her skill has the shortest CD for any 5* classes along with the Gunslinger, and that make her a solid choice for stealing capture point in the arena. It can also weaken the DEF on later tougher boss for your other units to quickly deliver the killing blow. Just like every other shadow class however, the class is pretty gear dependent, her overpowerness starts to shine more when you are nearing the end game stage.
Thanks for the wonderful insight!

I encourage others to do the same.
 
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Re: A guide to the different jobs available to Valiants

Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:20 pm

I am really amazed with your analysis and recommendation of class advancement based on faith and utility. Could you do this also with the relatively weaker versions of the Valiants (eg. Victoria, Kai, Zedd, Cybella, etc?)

A guide for decent 4* characters is also nice for those who are still starting.

Thank you for your work!
 
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Re: A guide to the different jobs available to Valiants

Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:29 pm

those aren't valiants though.....just normal heroes that can reach 5*
 
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Re: A guide to the different jobs available to Valiants

Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:33 pm

About Freya's Dragoon aura; Yes, she can triggered it by herself even nobody is around her.
A bit off topic but I've been wondering about this. Dragoon Vincent can trigger his aura effect by himself too but Cybella Grand Ranger can't (knockback on crit). It's not that big of an issue but an official explanation on how auras actually work is always welcome.
 
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Re: A guide to the different jobs available to Valiants

Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:20 pm

I am really amazed with your analysis and recommendation of class advancement based on faith and utility. Could you do this also with the relatively weaker versions of the Valiants (eg. Victoria, Kai, Zedd, Cybella, etc?)

A guide for decent 4* characters is also nice for those who are still starting.

Thank you for your work!
I would love to but... That's a lot of work... Maybe when I'm not so busy in two or three months, right now I have other deadlines to meet (and other games to play :P).
 
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Re: A guide to the different jobs available to Valiants

Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:31 pm

About Freya's Dragoon aura; Yes, she can triggered it by herself even nobody is around her.
A bit off topic but I've been wondering about this. Dragoon Vincent can trigger his aura effect by himself too but Cybella Grand Ranger can't (knockback on crit). It's not that big of an issue but an official explanation on how auras actually work is always welcome.
The wording is pretty straight forward, I've known that 'Everyone' means including the Hero itself, but I had never seen it in action because I rarely encounter that specific Hero in my battles even in the arena practice modes. Hence I need the confirmation from others. So about the Grand Ranger Cybella's aura trigger, it states trigger 'others'. Meaning this does not include her, but only others in her aura. So even if she lands a critical attack and no one is in her aura, her aura ceases to be useful.
 
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Re: A guide to the different jobs available to Valiants

Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:33 pm

want to ask: i have Hera Shizu, and i main PVE. should i go for Assassin to maximize her crits, or go for samurai for more survivability?
 
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Re: A guide to the different jobs available to Valiants

Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:34 pm

want to ask: i have Hera Shizu, and i main PVE. should i go for Assassin to maximize her crits, or go for samurai for more survivability?
Samurai Shizu isn't reliant on CRIT at all, but she already has a high base CRIT because she is a Shadow but still lowest among her other three jobs. It's up to you whether you want to strengthen her CRITs more for more critical attacks or beef her up with other faiths like Ares or Kratos for survivability. But the Samurai's winning points are her debuffs. Assassin Shizu is the most reliant on CRITs to make her aura work, her low CD single target stun comes as a bonus to differentiate her from the Ninja and Magebane. 

Since you're PVE oriented, the better choice would be Assassin to make full use of her being Hera faith, which is also pretty decent in the arena. I mentioned the assassin is the PVP type because of her low CD single target stun which when timed correctly, you can prevent early cast by the opponent if you ever moved first. Also her aura is not reliant on kills like the Ninja, as we know an opponent's Hero is hard to kill due to buffed stats as an opponent, and triggers based on critical is easier to achieve with high CRIT. But in this current meta, Assassin is not popular due to being too squishy and you need swaps to win points. However, if you're planning to ace the gold event, a Ninja would be better suited than the Assassin because of a slightly higher chance to trigger refresh upon kill, and her aura refreshes everyone including herself, also the fact that rocks are easy to smash.

I should probably update more info for Shizu...
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