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Man, nice guide you have here, it's god sent for players like me who have no idea what to build ^^ . That being said, i need some advise on which job adv to go. 
I recently pulled Freya and my joy was cut short when i found out her faith was athena.. I've read your guide but am still torn between choosing dragoon, berserker and warlord. I'm mainly looking to build her for PVP. 
My current team are as follow: 
Grand Ranger Kane+1 (Kratos)
Megabane Shizu+1 (Hercules) 
4* Winry +2 
Zealot Leon, to be replaced with CK Victoria. 
Rogue Rin (Kratos) 

I realised VF loves giving me bad faiths LOL. 

Thank you : )

For starters, Dragoon Freya would serve you better in the long run. Why I advise so? Because you have a Grand Ranger Kane and Magebane Shizu, both are great stunners and together with Freya as a Dragoon, you're close to forming a stun lock team which is quite popular to clear the Legendary Story. Dragoon will also help you in the daily gold event if you don't already use Lancers for their low cool down. For PVP, the Dragoon can launch herself behind your opponent's squishy heroes or pierce through the front line with her normal attacks.

But if you want to be like me, I only use 1 Melee hero which is Warlord Freya. I couldn't choose the Dragoon because that would leave my Mystics/Rangers vulnerable. The Warlord is good in her own way, especially for pulling bosses or enemy Mystics/Rangers in PVP which also packs a good punch. It is exceptionally good vs opponents who run Guardians coupled with Ninjas whereby the AI Ninja swaps the Warlord out most of the time and then she can pull Guardians away from the tile (I'm not exactly sure in the case for others, my setup lets the Ninja AI swap my Warlord most of the time).

As for the Berserker, well... no real good reason to use her. Their buffs wear out pretty fast in PVP and their aura is quite dependent on having more around her which isn't going to happen for me.

Try getting Rin replaced with Freya when you have come to a decision, you have enough melee heroes in the team as it is.

So its down to Dragoon or Warlord huh? I'll give some thoughts about it, thanks for helping out. I have another q though if you don't mind, i was thinking of getting the titan's bundle for CK victoria since i felt that it would be quite a challenge for me to get the full 5* set, but then again VF comes out with events giving out free 4* set items which will offset the titan's bundle set bonus(?), so i'm not sure if i should wait till the free set items for guardian to be released. 

Man, nice guide you have here, it's god sent for players like me who have no idea what to build ^^ . That being said, i need some advise on which job adv to go. 
I recently pulled Freya and my joy was cut short when i found out her faith was athena.. I've read your guide but am still torn between choosing dragoon, berserker and warlord. I'm mainly looking to build her for PVP. 
My current team are as follow: 
Grand Ranger Kane+1 (Kratos)
Megabane Shizu+1 (Hercules) 
4* Winry +2 
Zealot Leon, to be replaced with CK Victoria. 
Rogue Rin (Kratos) 

I realised VF loves giving me bad faiths LOL. 

Thank you : )

For starters, Dragoon Freya would serve you better in the long run. Why I advise so? Because you have a Grand Ranger Kane and Magebane Shizu, both are great stunners and together with Freya as a Dragoon, you're close to forming a stun lock team which is quite popular to clear the Legendary Story. Dragoon will also help you in the daily gold event if you don't already use Lancers for their low cool down. For PVP, the Dragoon can launch herself behind your opponent's squishy heroes or pierce through the front line with her normal attacks.

But if you want to be like me, I only use 1 Melee hero which is Warlord Freya. I couldn't choose the Dragoon because that would leave my Mystics/Rangers vulnerable. The Warlord is good in her own way, especially for pulling bosses or enemy Mystics/Rangers in PVP which also packs a good punch. It is exceptionally good vs opponents who run Guardians coupled with Ninjas whereby the AI Ninja swaps the Warlord out most of the time and then she can pull Guardians away from the tile (I'm not exactly sure in the case for others, my setup lets the Ninja AI swap my Warlord most of the time).

As for the Berserker, well... no real good reason to use her. Their buffs wear out pretty fast in PVP and their aura is quite dependent on having more around her which isn't going to happen for me.

Try getting Rin replaced with Freya when you have come to a decision, you have enough melee heroes in the team as it is.

So its down to Dragoon or Warlord huh? I'll give some thoughts about it, thanks for helping out. I have another q though if you don't mind, i was thinking of getting the titan's bundle for CK victoria since i felt that it would be quite a challenge for me to get the full 5* set, but then again VF comes out with events giving out free 4* set items which will offset the titan's bundle set bonus(?), so i'm not sure if i should wait till the free set items for guardian to be released. 

The Titanic set is really worth it, for me at least. It guarantees Trinity which is top demand for Champions, but Chaos Knights can use them just as well too since they are more on the offensive side. The best part about the 5* Titanic set is that it doesn't break other sets, you can craft 5* Shogun's Armor and Helm from Armorsmith and farm 4* Gladius (Weapon) and Exquisite Boots (Accessory) from story.

You can still farm your own sets though the story, craft your own equipment from Armorsmith/Weapon Forge, or try your luck with the equipment tickets from Bazaar, but you won't have guarantee stats from the Titan's bundle. We don't even know if the Titanic set will be available again in the future as bundle or in the summon.

On another note. The event which gave out the 4* Spectre set is quite useless with the wrong stat, so it's become salvage material for me. Don't really know how the Legion set in this event will turn out but so far it's not looking good... for me.

Thank you : )

For starters, Dragoon Freya would serve you better in the long run. Why I advise so? Because you have a Grand Ranger Kane and Magebane Shizu, both are great stunners and together with Freya as a Dragoon, you're close to forming a stun lock team which is quite popular to clear the Legendary Story. Dragoon will also help you in the daily gold event if you don't already use Lancers for their low cool down. For PVP, the Dragoon can launch herself behind your opponent's squishy heroes or pierce through the front line with her normal attacks.

But if you want to be like me, I only use 1 Melee hero which is Warlord Freya. I couldn't choose the Dragoon because that would leave my Mystics/Rangers vulnerable. The Warlord is good in her own way, especially for pulling bosses or enemy Mystics/Rangers in PVP which also packs a good punch. It is exceptionally good vs opponents who run Guardians coupled with Ninjas whereby the AI Ninja swaps the Warlord out most of the time and then she can pull Guardians away from the tile (I'm not exactly sure in the case for others, my setup lets the Ninja AI swap my Warlord most of the time).

As for the Berserker, well... no real good reason to use her. Their buffs wear out pretty fast in PVP and their aura is quite dependent on having more around her which isn't going to happen for me.

Try getting Rin replaced with Freya when you have come to a decision, you have enough melee heroes in the team as it is.

So its down to Dragoon or Warlord huh? I'll give some thoughts about it, thanks for helping out. I have another q though if you don't mind, i was thinking of getting the titan's bundle for CK victoria since i felt that it would be quite a challenge for me to get the full 5* set, but then again VF comes out with events giving out free 4* set items which will offset the titan's bundle set bonus(?), so i'm not sure if i should wait till the free set items for guardian to be released. 

The Titanic set is really worth it, for me at least. It guarantees Trinity which is top demand for Champions, but Chaos Knights can use them just as well too since they are more on the offensive side. The best part about the 5* Titanic set is that it doesn't break other sets, you can craft 5* Shogun's Armor and Helm from Armorsmith and farm 4* Gladius (Weapon) and Exquisite Boots (Accessory) from story.

You can still farm your own sets though the story, craft your own equipment from Armorsmith/Weapon Forge, or try your luck with the equipment tickets from Bazaar, but you won't have guarantee stats from the Titan's bundle. We don't even know if the Titanic set will be available again in the future as bundle or in the summon.

On another note. The event which gave out the 4* Spectre set is quite useless with the wrong stat, so it's become salvage material for me. Don't really know how the Legion set in this event will turn out but so far it's not looking good... for me.

I see, that clears up a lot of my doubts =) Yeah the sets I've gotten thus far, all have mag stats in them.. like really where's my RNG when you need it. 

Just pulled my 2nd valiant hero, Kane(Zeus) after 28 days of playing. Would Gunslinger be better for him since the other classes requires high crit for their aura/skills?

Just pulled my 2nd valiant hero, Kane(Zeus) after 28 days of playing. Would Gunslinger be better for him since the other classes requires high crit for their aura/skills?

Faith shouldn't really be the ultimatum to which job you should go to, but it does make the job better at what they do. I say go for the one you like, regardless of faith because they can be easily changed and with much more convenience later in the future, while jobs do not.

That being said, Rangers generally have high a base CRIT stat. If you find your CRIT stat lacking they can be compensated with equipment (Might, Zodiac) and runes. Even without Hera, they can still reach at least 40-50% critical rate on average with decent equipment, runes and limit breaks.

But if that does not sound good to you, then to answer your question, yes. Gunslinger would be better for his lowest cool down among 5* and his aura trigger. Gunslinger Kane is not reliant on any faith to make him work, so he can be versatile with any faith depending on your play style.

Hi, i just got athena and zeus kiera as my arena and login rewards ... What is the best job for them for now ?
I confused as i ady have hercules kiera elementalist too... Should i roll warlock or mind warder ? Or lb her to elementalist ?

I more lean toward pvp but like to do decent pve as well ... Thx in advanced

Hi, i just got athena and zeus kiera as my arena and login rewards ... What is the best job for them for now ?
I confused as i ady have hercules kiera elementalist too... Should i roll warlock or mind warder ? Or lb her to elementalist ?

I more lean toward pvp but like to do decent pve as well ... Thx in advanced

First, you need to ask yourself. How frequently is Elementalist Kiera (Hercules) targeted by the AI? If rarely or not at all, then you might want to switch to Elementalist Kiera (Athena) and lb her twice with the other 2 Kiera's. If very frequently, then you may want to put her on the 3rd row to mitigate as much damage as possible if she is not already there. But I will still recommend to use Elementalist Kiera (Athena) for both scenarios.

I will never recommend Hercules to anyone in this guide. You basically sacrifice other important stats for a small HP boost, which doesn't even go well with squishy Heroes like Mystics at all. They have pretty low DEF to begin with, if they are targeted by Rangers then chances are they are gonna die fast anyway and the HP from Hercules isn't going to lower the damage any less.

Right now Elementalist are underrated. You have a chance to get Elementalist Kiera up to Level 34, her nukes can be devastating even at Level 30. Try not to waste this opportunity by spreading her jobs around. Combined with Wizardry Equipment and MAG/ATK runes, she can be a decent DPS.

Thx for fast reply ... I long time not use it .. She is my 1 st valiant, so after couple new hero , i rarely use her ... Im gonna test her again and build mystic tower and upgrade mag rune to see her potential

Ele kiera that is^^

Hi, im still new about this game and i got freya( zeus) slayer .. what job should i pick for her next? Berserk or warlord?
My team composition is
Freya (slayer) zeus
Vincent ( warrior ) ares
Teresa ( priest) hercules
Natalia ( knight) zeus
Isabela ( mage) hercules

Hi, im still new about this game and i got freya( zeus) slayer .. what job should i pick for her next? Berserk or warlord?
My team composition is
Freya (slayer) zeus
Vincent ( warrior ) ares
Teresa ( priest) hercules
Natalia ( knight) zeus
Isabela ( mage) hercules

Since you're new and your team isn't solid enough yet, it is better not to choose which job in the Slayer branch should go to suit your current team. So I'm going to generalize both Berserker and Warlord and hopefully it will give you an idea which job you want to go to.

Berserker Freya has outstanding ATK, but for 2 turns in PVP it is extremely hard to make use of her 2 turn buff. Having a CD of 6 turns, she has to act last by casting skill in the 2nd wave and act first in the 3rd wave to utilize her buff. Another way is have her attack triggered by others while her buff is active. That is if she survives, she has a low survivability rate and even lower due to debuffs to her DEF which would likely make her a prime target if she has the lowest DEF. There is also nothing to be proud of her aura, as you need other heroes around her to make it work and at a 30% rate which is low.

Warlord Freya on the other hand, can boast more than just high ATK. She has a useful feature which allows her to cast pull on single targets (even boss monsters) which also packs quite a punch. In PVP it may be useful in some cases where Freya was displaced/swapped, then she can pull someone away from a tile or straight off kill any Ranger/Shadow if she has high enough ATK. Her aura is okay-ish, 40% to trigger others to ATK is not too low but it is not high either.

I'm probably favoring Warlord because I'm using her... She's my only melee unit on the front lines and she's doing great, she's also Zeus faith. I'm trying to get her to Ares but no luck so far. Before I forget to bring faith in, Ares is the most preferable faith for all Champion jobs. Having Zeus is okay, but to get the most out of Champions, having high ATK is a must.