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[Advice Needed] Grand Ranger Kane
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:05 pm
by sceptism
Hi veterans of the forum, would like to ask for your opinion on Kane GR. I got mine in Ares faith and after equipping with a mix of full 2* 3* crit runes with about 4 at +15, his critical rate is still at a measly 46%. Here is a screenshot of his stats:
http://imgur.com/a/yJjs9
With it being 46%, I find him unreliable both for damage and utility (in PVP especially, hits like a wet noodle for some reason ~1k if he doesn't crit). Anyone here who has an Ares GR Kane and made it work? Would really appreciate some insight to this. Thank you!
Edit: Also realised that the crit percentage seems a bit wonky. Sometimes after I upgrade my runes the percentage seems to drop I don't really understand it.
Re: [Advice Needed] Grand Ranger Kane
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:14 pm
by Ferico
Hi there!
I think the problem is that you want your GR Kane to be CRT-oriented even if he has Ares Faith. It is established that Hera Kane is the best for Grand Ranger and Ares is the second one. If we look at their base stats at GR+2 (Max Limit Break), Ares Kane has only 2517 Crit (28%) and Hera Kane has an enormous 3557 Crit! (39%). Tha's a very big gap between the faiths and I understand you offset this with lots of CRIT Runes.
However, I suggest you experiment with your Kane and use full ATK Runes instead of CRT Runes and become more offensive-oriented. I know you want to somehow activate his aura since it is very useful, specially in bosses but having a balanced ATK and CRIT would only make him master-of-none (Damager of Stunner?). I secondly suggest you "let go/rely less" on his aura since it is inferior to have Ares Kane to procure his aura heavily based on CRIT. Your GR Kane would Crit at least 1/3 of the time anyway and is still decent to activate stun.
Hope this helps!
Re: [Advice Needed] Grand Ranger Kane
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:34 pm
by sceptism
Hi there!
I think the problem is that you want your GR Kane to be CRT-oriented even if he has Ares Faith. It is established that Hera Kane is the best for Grand Ranger and Ares is the second one. If we look at their base stats at GR+2 (Max Limit Break), Ares Kane has only 2517 Crit (28%) and Hera Kane has an enormous 3557 Crit! (39%). Tha's a very big gap between the faiths and I understand you offset this with lots of CRIT Runes.
However, I suggest you experiment with your Kane and use full ATK Runes instead of CRT Runes and become more offensive-oriented. I know you want to somehow activate his aura since it is very useful, specially in bosses but having a balanced ATK and CRIT would only make him master-of-none (Damager of Stunner?). I secondly suggest you "let go/rely less" on his aura since it is inferior to have Ares Kane to procure his aura heavily based on CRIT. Your GR Kane would Crit at least 1/3 of the time anyway and is still decent to activate stun.
Hope this helps!
Thank you for the reply Ferico. Damn letting go of his aura hurts so bad. But thanks again for the insight! Well I might do just that. Or I might go for a gamble using a jailer to reroll him. Haha.
Re: [Advice Needed] Grand Ranger Kane
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:11 pm
by 0uros
Hi there!
I think the problem is that you want your GR Kane to be CRT-oriented even if he has Ares Faith. It is established that Hera Kane is the best for Grand Ranger and Ares is the second one. If we look at their base stats at GR+2 (Max Limit Break), Ares Kane has only 2517 Crit (28%) and Hera Kane has an enormous 3557 Crit! (39%). Tha's a very big gap between the faiths and I understand you offset this with lots of CRIT Runes.
However, I suggest you experiment with your Kane and use full ATK Runes instead of CRT Runes and become more offensive-oriented. I know you want to somehow activate his aura since it is very useful, specially in bosses but having a balanced ATK and CRIT would only make him master-of-none (Damager of Stunner?). I secondly suggest you "let go/rely less" on his aura since it is inferior to have Ares Kane to procure his aura heavily based on CRIT. Your GR Kane would Crit at least 1/3 of the time anyway and is still decent to activate stun.
Hope this helps!
Thank you for the reply Ferico. Damn letting go of his aura hurts so bad. But thanks again for the insight! Well I might do just that. Or I might go for a gamble using a jailer to reroll him. Haha.
Oh i would NEVER reroll an Ares faith Kane. You already have the second best faith, essentially giving you an 80% chance to reroll to smth worse. I guess if you're feeling lucky.. or have lots of 5*s, you can gamble for the last 20% but i would strongly advise you against it.
Re: [Advice Needed] Grand Ranger Kane
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:23 pm
by alvinherexD
Hi there!
I think the problem is that you want your GR Kane to be CRT-oriented even if he has Ares Faith. It is established that Hera Kane is the best for Grand Ranger and Ares is the second one. If we look at their base stats at GR+2 (Max Limit Break), Ares Kane has only 2517 Crit (28%) and Hera Kane has an enormous 3557 Crit! (39%). Tha's a very big gap between the faiths and I understand you offset this with lots of CRIT Runes.
However, I suggest you experiment with your Kane and use full ATK Runes instead of CRT Runes and become more offensive-oriented. I know you want to somehow activate his aura since it is very useful, specially in bosses but having a balanced ATK and CRIT would only make him master-of-none (Damager of Stunner?). I secondly suggest you "let go/rely less" on his aura since it is inferior to have Ares Kane to procure his aura heavily based on CRIT. Your GR Kane would Crit at least 1/3 of the time anyway and is still decent to activate stun.
Hope this helps!
Thank you for the reply Ferico. Damn letting go of his aura hurts so bad. But thanks again for the insight! Well I might do just that. Or I might go for a gamble using a jailer to reroll him. Haha.
Omg please dont re-roll. I got 2 suggestions for you.
1. Try to get all the equipment which is Might suffix. with enough crit % it should bring you over 50%
2. If your critical runes are not all critical stats yet try to get that.
Re: [Advice Needed] Grand Ranger Kane
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:59 pm
by sceptism
Yea I don't think I have that kind of luck so I didn't reroll lol. Trying out a full red grid to test the damage. Hopefully going full attack will make him viable for me haha. Thanks guys for the help!
Re: [Advice Needed] Grand Ranger Kane
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:13 pm
by uratex16
Oh we had the same faith!
My Ares Kane is at 53% Crit and he helps me a LOT. I use hin merely for CC though, I only beat capitol legendary after I got Kane and utilized him as for utility. Sure, I lacked damage since I focused on Crit runes, but my other units compensated in damage.
Re: [Advice Needed] Grand Ranger Kane
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:22 pm
by Zahariel
Mine is Zeus Kane. He doesn't critical much but can survive easily to deal a lot of disruption