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Hi guys,

With the Guild Raid Beta 2.0 has been released yesterday. It seems there are lot of improvement has been applied as well.
So I heard from my guild member that there is some sort of trick that we can create higher damage by using SDD squad and "retreat" every time to get better damages. The thing is the more we did the “retreat and retry” process, we get more frustrated because of the tiring process.

I open poll for everyone, sending our suggestion to the DEV on how to shorten the long session without have to repeat this trial-and-error process.

1. Remove "Retreat" Button (but this will also remove our freedom to retry different squads)

2. Charge with small energy consumption (ex. -2 or -3 energy)

3. Retreat will debuff -5% of stats per retry but not consuming any energy

4. Reduce Raid Keys to 2 but the Boss's HP also reduce 1/3 of total HP

I know these poll above sounds like a penalty to everyone, but I just hope that these will shorten the tiring long session time. If you have any other good suggestion, please reply below instead of rant or complaining.

If I get multiple choices, it would be;

- Retreat will debuff -5% of stats per retry but not consuming any energy.

- Reduce Raid Keys to 1 but the Boss's HP also reduce 2/3 of total HP.

You're sort of late to the party  

I would remove retreat or allow a maximum number of retries as explained here.

And together with this change, reduce the bosses' HP DRASTICALLY (reduce by maybe 80% even after 1.1 nerfs)

You're sort of late to the party  

I would remove retreat or allow a maximum number of retries as explained here.

And together with this change, reduce the bosses' HP DRASTICALLY (reduce by maybe 80% even after 1.1 nerfs)

I've read on your raid key system, it is indeed better and less abusive, forcing people to ACTUALLY test and get a workable squad instead of no brainer and rely on RNG(Trigger).
Back to this Post,
- I don't actually see the benefit in using energy for guild raid, the Key is already a 'ticket' to join the fun, on top of this, The dailies dungeon SHOULD not even charge us energy for joining(off-topic).
- The retreating is alright, but I hope we could still can choose to retreat, leave it be, but limiting the Retries per day like how others had suggested.
- The stat penalty, seriously no, no matter how they change the system, stat penalty in guild raid is NO GO, i mean NO, dont go that way.

No, pls no energy cost for Raid. People will find a reason to skip the raid :/

Oh please, using energy instead of raid keys is unthinkable. When you retreat, you waste your energies as well (as long as the retreat system is still do-able).
And it leads to some people wont do raid when ladder comes.

Hello everyone!

Thank you for creating this amazing poll and your suggestion!
We are definitely keen to know the community response on this too

The DEV team is listening to every feedback from the community to improve the Guild Raid for better experience!
Once again thank you!

Oh please, using energy instead of raid keys is unthinkable. When you retreat, you waste your energies as well (as long as the retreat system is still do-able).
And it leads to some people wont do raid when ladder comes.

Unthinkable or not, it just an option, if you dont like the option, vote other else lol 
Anyway, I vote to remove the Retreat button! we need justice! ///

Oh please, using energy instead of raid keys is unthinkable. When you retreat, you waste your energies as well (as long as the retreat system is still do-able).
And it leads to some people wont do raid when ladder comes.

Unthinkable or not, it just an option, if you dont like the option, vote other else lol 
Anyway, I vote to remove the Retreat button! we need justice! ///

Already did. And I just saying what I want to say, can't I?

You're sort of late to the party  

I would remove retreat or allow a maximum number of retries as explained here.

And together with this change, reduce the bosses' HP DRASTICALLY (reduce by maybe 80% even after 1.1 nerfs)

Haha, indeed I am
but I think it's great idea to start poll for this too instead just giving one option so people can give their thoughts too .. 
I just put some option that I can think of, i guess XD