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The amount of money and time used to lb some eq is not worthed

Grand heirloom start from 1* and we nees to increase its level to 6* first
At least just to upgrade it to max level at least 3-5mil gold used(depend on your luck) AND THATS JUST 1 PART OF IT

After that we need to have those recipe as well to make it WORTHED

How many trash eq itself need to be used? At 5* enhance to6 eq are worthed as followed
5=3%    (33x of 5trash)
4=1.5% (66x of 4trash)
3=0.8%(132x of 3trash)
At least 4xgem summon if people able to get all 5 trash yet sadly its impossible to. Therefore people summon those trash eq using gold
1-10xsummon is 45000 yet atleast
15-20 times 10xsummon need to be done.
6750000-9000000 jst to enhance it and not to forget each 16mat enhance cost.

The new gacha that separate equip type is fine, but the rate of trashes equip used to enhance need to be increased.

5* is already droppable only from gacha and event only.
Even in those event player need to be lucky first or at least increase the rate by doing it many times(buying energy). Some equipments worthed to be used while some are not.
And not to forget after event ended theres no way for any player to get those 5* to be USED AS ENHANCE MATERIALS.
With increased rate to enhance equipments it is possible for any player to play properly. They could "credit" equipment that they could use. And more importantly both new and old player are encouraged to enhance more. Old player which got trash 5* can use it to enhance their new and better equip and new player which just started playing could make 6* equip a little bit faster.
 
Since:
Enhance kits is not farmable, theres no way player able to get those if not buying it. Even for the smallest one, it is not farmable.

Using medal to get perfect enhance kit is not worth it. Medal droppable only on event quest milestone.
At most 2-3 medal droppable on 2week quest or 1 on 1week quest.

Also people are supposed to saving for 7* equipment, yet no6* are enhanceable to 7*?!

If you are strong enough to farm Master 2 in the event, you will get about 30 to 50 5* equipment drops every event. That on top of about using 400 heirloom tickets with the excess bazaar tokens every event, is enough to promote about 2 or 3 items from 5* to 6*, without using equipment summon.

This event will be even better because you can use Mordred and Talissa to increase the bazaar token drop rates so I expect to have even more heirloom tickets to buy as equipment fodder, maybe about 600 or so.

The only equipment that can be enhanced from 6* to 7* at the moment is Conquest sets.

Ok then let me ask how many energy you buy to do so.(including those paid energy)
Its not on the term where people buy normally isnt it? If it is then dont bother with the issue anymore it mean that this issue just rambling of fool.
Otherwise:
like you said master2 could yield enough trashes equipments to be used as enhance materials

Yet many player reach lvl 60 most dont even have PROPER EQUIPMENT. Which is needed in order to be able to pass that master2(even if they able to pass they burn considerable amount of potion/gem to revive).
Even if they able to farm master2 how many are lucky enough to be able to get enough trashes every quest completed, i am not that lucky at least.

Yes, those event drops can be used for any grand heirloom ticket but it take time to collect. But NOT EVERYONE able to claim more useful item/ticket within the first or second day as well. Dont forget those trashes equip are mostly 4* at most.
Otherwise queens egg/ blood chest/special event equip are people first priority not materials that will be used only to enhance equipments. Even if they did manage to get those first, most people dont have time left to farm enough trash to enhance it.

New player even old not everyone able to enjoy the game unless they grind a lot for a long time UNLESS THEY SPEND A LOT. buying bundle/other cash item is fine and it is fair for them have better advantage than those who dont. But the way things are both player type are not able to enjoy the game more. With increased rate of materials used to enhance all player could enjoy the game more.
(dont forget when 7* equipment out for most player, they still need to have functioning 6* equipments first dont they)

Those 6* so far obtainable from ticket from medal or lost map event. But those 6* most of the time are useless, they got no additional skill and they take some slot which could be used for other sets that has skill in it.

you have to be level 80 and above to be able to farm master 2 comfortably then again certain heroes are good at certain events and not all your heroes are max out unless you are premium 15 and above. A level 60 player will have a hard time farming legendary difficulty especially for free to play players so yeah you be right if most level 60 players or even level 70 players will most only have 3* - 4* equipment and probably all 5* items on their main Damage dealer.

The grind isn’t that rewarding either because the RNG will just disappoint you. The new gatcha system is also a rip off wasted 3k gems and no event hero and only got 3 5* potential fodders.

The 7* equipments and limit break equipment are really just for paying players. There is no way for free to play players to catch up A month or more from now free to play players that are slowly catching up with the top players will be kick back to gold 1 hence back to zero

Yeah it makes me wonder too as to why enhancing kits are not farmable at least they should make it available in the arena market, wishingwell and marketplace. The medals would be rewarding if you could save it up and buy a costume or fashion... or save up to buy limit break items at the bazaar but nah if they do that dedicated free to play players will catch up and they’ll have to come up of ways to increase the power gap again.

Honestly I don’t really care much about the increase in the power gap between paying and non-paying as my primary gole is to collect all heroes and items and the decrease in drop rate really really disappointed me.

Simply because the game is stupid and is just a whale-serving entity. Players who are in their mid-level of experience are overwhelmed by bullcraps such as talent points, equipment limit break, insignia. There is no concept of "ceiling" here in VF where you can sense a feeling of satisfaction after reaching your hero's max potential because VF always screws and adds layers of new features that even lower tier whales could not reach in a short period of time.

Powercreep is so bad here that you can focus all your resources in building a hero then VF makes it obsolete in a month or so. I suggest you play it casually and stick with your "Just Collect all heroes" goal though I doubt you can since Dark lords are premium.