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The Zodiac suffix is not up to luck if you obtain the item at 5 or 6* and already see its bonuses before upgrading,
just that if you aim to enhance it there is too much risk that the bonus stats become crap.
Now that there's valianite, you actually have a chance at a gamble for zodiac suffix with good bonuses but it's indeed up to luck.

The Zodiac suffix is not up to luck if you obtain the item at 5 or 6* and already see its bonuses before upgrading,
just that if you aim to enhance it there is too much risk that the bonus stats become crap.
Now that there's valianite, you actually have a chance at a gamble for zodiac suffix with good bonuses but it's indeed up to luck.

NO. You don't even use valianite. 

Stop spreading false information.

The Zodiac suffix is not up to luck if you obtain the item at 5 or 6* and already see its bonuses before upgrading,
just that if you aim to enhance it there is too much risk that the bonus stats become crap.
Now that there's valianite, you actually have a chance at a gamble for zodiac suffix with good bonuses but it's indeed up to luck.

NO. You don't even use valianite. 

Stop spreading false information.

I think bunny meant we could always reforge (to change suffix with valianite) after we feel wrong with multiple tries on Zodiac's upgrade.
And on side note, I think Zodiac is worth the gamble because we can Reset upgrade now (with gold). Even my guildmates are utilizing Zodiac, reset after upgrading at least ONCE to get 3 of your desired stat, and you are good to go.

The Zodiac suffix is not up to luck if you obtain the item at 5 or 6* and already see its bonuses before upgrading,
just that if you aim to enhance it there is too much risk that the bonus stats become crap.
Now that there's valianite, you actually have a chance at a gamble for zodiac suffix with good bonuses but it's indeed up to luck.

NO. You don't even use valianite. 

Stop spreading false information.

I think bunny meant we could always reforge (to change suffix with valianite) after we feel wrong with multiple tries on Zodiac's upgrade.
And on side note, I think Zodiac is worth the gamble because we can Reset upgrade now (with gold). Even my guildmates are utilizing Zodiac, reset after upgrading at least ONCE to get 3 of your desired stat, and you are good to go.

What I meant was if you have other item at +15 with other suffix, and you want to change it, you can reforge (you use a valianite there)and there is a chance for you to get zodiac with good suffix.
Ofcourse if you have items with Zodiac suffix, you can actually do a reset option and try for better bonuses.
And yes, you can just upgrade the Zodiac item once to +1 and reset it over and over until you find a good bonus option before you start to +15 it. But if you enchance it you have to redo the process again. It's up to some luck to find one with good bonuses but it can actually have better stats than those might and trinity ones.

My wording may have made you misunderstood, but wow that was super aggressive LOL

NO. You don't even use valianite. 

Stop spreading false information.

I think bunny meant we could always reforge (to change suffix with valianite) after we feel wrong with multiple tries on Zodiac's upgrade.
And on side note, I think Zodiac is worth the gamble because we can Reset upgrade now (with gold). Even my guildmates are utilizing Zodiac, reset after upgrading at least ONCE to get 3 of your desired stat, and you are good to go.

What I meant was if you have other item at +15 with other suffix, and you want to change it, you can reforge (you use a valianite there)and there is a chance for you to get zodiac with good suffix.
Ofcourse if you have items with Zodiac suffix, you can actually do a reset option and try for better bonuses.
And yes,  you can just upgrade the Zodiac item once to +1 and reset it over and over until you find a good bonus option before you start to +15 it.  But if you enchance it you have to redo the process again. It's up to some luck to find one with good bonuses but it can actually have better stats than those might and trinity ones.

My wording may have made you misunderstood, but wow that was super aggressive LOL

Why would you ever +15 an item with bad suffix/good suffix and then reforge it hoping it would get a good zodiac?

I think bunny meant we could always reforge (to change suffix with valianite) after we feel wrong with multiple tries on Zodiac's upgrade.
And on side note, I think Zodiac is worth the gamble because we can Reset upgrade now (with gold). Even my guildmates are utilizing Zodiac, reset after upgrading at least ONCE to get 3 of your desired stat, and you are good to go.

What I meant was if you have other item at +15 with other suffix, and you want to change it, you can reforge (you use a valianite there)and there is a chance for you to get zodiac with good suffix.
Ofcourse if you have items with Zodiac suffix, you can actually do a reset option and try for better bonuses.
And yes,  you can just upgrade the Zodiac item once to +1 and reset it over and over until you find a good bonus option before you start to +15 it.  But if you enchance it you have to redo the process again. It's up to some luck to find one with good bonuses but it can actually have better stats than those might and trinity ones.

My wording may have made you misunderstood, but wow that was super aggressive LOL

Why would you ever +15 an item with bad suffix/good suffix and then reforge it hoping it would get a good zodiac?

Well, I did +15 some of my equipment which had bad /ok suffix because it is part of a piece for set completion. .
For example I had a "of defense" ring for my Ninja.
After valianite arrived, I reforged it hoping to get Trinity or Might and actually ended up with a good Zodiac one.
Wasn't hoping for Zodiac, but ended up with it because of luck

I forgot to be on topic, so nope I don't think Zodiac option should be removed

What I meant was if you have other item at +15 with other suffix, and you want to change it, you can reforge (you use a valianite there)and there is a chance for you to get zodiac with good suffix.
Ofcourse if you have items with Zodiac suffix, you can actually do a reset option and try for better bonuses.
And yes,  you can just upgrade the Zodiac item once to +1 and reset it over and over until you find a good bonus option before you start to +15 it.  But if you enchance it you have to redo the process again. It's up to some luck to find one with good bonuses but it can actually have better stats than those might and trinity ones.

My wording may have made you misunderstood, but wow that was super aggressive LOL

Why would you ever +15 an item with bad suffix/good suffix and then reforge it hoping it would get a good zodiac?

Well, I did +15 some of my equipment which had bad /ok suffix because it is part of a piece for set completion. .
For example I had a "of defense" ring for my Ninja.
After valianite arrived, I reforged it hoping to get Trinity or Might and actually ended up with a good Zodiac one.
Wasn't hoping for Zodiac, but ended up with it because of luck

But that's in the past when reforging wasn't avaliable so sure you upgrade whatever suffix you have to +15. Why are you suggesting to do that now?

Why would you ever +15 an item with bad suffix/good suffix and then reforge it hoping it would get a good zodiac?

Well, I did +15 some of my equipment which had bad /ok suffix because it is part of a piece for set completion. .
For example I had a "of defense" ring for my Ninja.
After valianite arrived, I reforged it hoping to get Trinity or Might and actually ended up with a good Zodiac one.
Wasn't hoping for Zodiac, but ended up with it because of luck

But that's in the past when reforging wasn't avaliable so sure you upgrade whatever suffix you have to +15. Why are you suggesting to do that now?

I'm not suggesting they should be upgrading whatever suffix to +15 now.
But there are lots of people who had already upgraded before, since previously we didn't even know there would be a reforge.
I'm just suggesting a good Zodiac suffix can also be an option for people who are doing reforging for their items, this is true even your item is at +0 or +15.
For example people who are reforging their magesets for MAG, even the item is +0 they can find zodiac item with MAG (with some luck) which is better than having to find only "Wizardry" during reforge.

Well, I did +15 some of my equipment which had bad /ok suffix because it is part of a piece for set completion. .
For example I had a "of defense" ring for my Ninja.
After valianite arrived, I reforged it hoping to get Trinity or Might and actually ended up with a good Zodiac one.
Wasn't hoping for Zodiac, but ended up with it because of luck

But that's in the past when reforging wasn't avaliable so sure you upgrade whatever suffix you have to +15. Why are you suggesting to do that now?

I'm not suggesting they should be upgrading whatever suffix to +15 now.
But there are lots of people who had already upgraded before, since previously we didn't even know there would be a reforge.
I'm just suggesting a good Zodiac suffix can also be an option for people who are doing reforging for their items, this is true even your item is at +0 or +15.
For example people who are reforging their magesets for MAG, even the item is +0 they can find zodiac item with MAG (with some luck) which is better than having to find only "Wizardry" during reforge.

If you going to reforge to Zodiac, who care if you get good or bad Zodiac because ANY zodiac can be made into good.

The notion that there is even "BAD" zodiac just means you don't understand the nature of zodiac item.