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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:22 am

The aim of these recent 4* rate up with bonus stat on event is dev gonna make u guys see the power of 4* and use them more than just focus about 5* heroes, she is not useless
I'm gonna write a 4* guide after this event
Yes please do, I will love you forever if you do
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:59 am

Thanks jenoss for let me use edo tensei on you
Was send you a friend request
Hope the best for the orher good guys who have seraph as a leader (y)
You are welcome..
I just spent 1200 gems to take her for the ones of my guild and friend that can't make some steps of the event..
Other than that sadly she will be usless QQ
The aim of these recent 4* rate up with bonus stat on event is dev gonna make u guys see the power of 4* and use them more than just focus about 5* heroes, she is not useless
I'm gonna write a 4* guide after this event
What do you mean?

What is her use after this even? Be fodder and ... ?
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:20 am

You are welcome..
I just spent 1200 gems to take her for the ones of my guild and friend that can't make some steps of the event..
Other than that sadly she will be usless QQ
The aim of these recent 4* rate up with bonus stat on event is dev gonna make u guys see the power of 4* and use them more than just focus about 5* heroes, she is not useless
I'm gonna write a 4* guide after this event
What do you mean?

What is her use after this even? Be fodder and ... ?
Because not everyone has great pull and needs to learn how to use whatever they have until they got SOMETHING. If someone spent 1.6k and got no decent 5* DPS then they would need to find other options.
F2P will truly be dead if they relaunch the pre-nerf LULU EVENT. Before that happen, just be grateful that event item now can be exchanged for some form of rewards in the bazaar.
F2P should really try the pre-nerf LULU. When things gets tough and unbeatable, just remember lulu.
Why do people keep bringing out old things that new players may not know or even care of? Events that transpired during BETA an exclusive and closed testing phase. Those events should be stepping stones, not a rebuttal in a discussion.

Why are F2P and New Players forced to be "grateful"? Why are they being oppressed? They should be given opportunities not restrictions. Just like how we all should appreciate P2P players.

A public event should be accessible. There should be stairs and elevators but at the end of the day they should lead to the same place.
What he's trying to say is that Beta players (and probably f2p) had the same problems/feelings like the new+f2players too, from an older event. Personally I agree to that, it was very hard for me to finish Lulu event. However I do agree with you that the threshold should be lowered so more people could finish the event. Most other people in this thread are more about how do we deal with it since we don't expect to/can change it, due to the nature of beta players' status didn't get wipe.
I don't agree that we shouldn't talk about what new players don't care about, because, hey, we're just people and players too, we did spent our time and effort. But I don't agree with Bickini's 'you should be grateful' mindset. Because what we don't want, we shouldn't expect others to deal with it. To Beta players, please learn to relate to the newer players from Lulu event and how we all wanted it to get nerf'd (and it did), and it's possible from the example of Halloween event, this might not get nerf'd. What was true to us is true to them (albeit not to the same degree). We need to focus on helping them by suggestions not tell them to shut up because they're 'ungrateful'.
I think everyone should just try to understand each other's pov a bit more before being angry about their own position..... That goes for everyone. 
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:58 am

Did you all check 100% chest reward? Its nothing. 3 star useless healer, 250 gems and 5 job keys, random skill rune ticket and a 200k gold. If only rewards were better than this I could understand the QQ for the 7 pages but QQing for this. Well, I dont know. Last event chest gave us 5 star fodder to reroll faith or just to use him but this chest gives us 3 star character. Yes, you can promote it to 5 star but if you check stats and skills you can see its way inferior than gatcha characters. You will need to waste energy/gold to promote her if you want to max her in the end.
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:44 am

old players say "spends your money and get seraphina" . but wait, what happens if the event ends? , yeah seraphina will be Fodder like winry. LOL

and can you think if all new players spends $100 to get Seraphina and "Black Wing" and they play arena?
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:38 am

Yes, don't be offended, I know how tough this event is, how bad the x10 pull is.

Why should we be grateful about all these changes in event?

An event can just be like lulu and aaria where the event token only serve one purpose, sell as gold. No bazaar whatsoever. Should we not be grateful that some suggestion resonate with the developer's grand scheme of the game and introduce bazaar for all to enjoy?

A game is suppose to put people in a cognitive process in determining whether which and where energy and gem is being spent on. Whether to complete the event 25%, 50% or 100% depend on those thinking process. So if the bazaar offer weak and subpar item, do we as player try to make full use out of it or run to the forum?

I too agreed that we should help fellow player, f2p and p2p alike and event should be accessible to public and I believe this event and all other former event have a rather Low entry point, therefore all are able to play the event one way or another.
However, what we have here is players that have access to the event wanted the ability to full clear it without even revealing what setup he is using. You might not be able to full clear event now, but that doesn't mean you won't be able to do it in the next event.

Lastly, no one said anything about the event won't be nerf so just chill and wait for dev to balance it out ya.
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:54 am

One of the biggest issue (in my opinion) with this event is how for a game that has a MULTITUDE of ways to build teams, it has found a way of consistently making the game hard for people that doesn't have 3 archers, or 2 ninjas etc. For example the legendary stage of Hall of Greed the chests are spread out in this pattern:

1 _ 2
_ 3 _
4 _ 5        # = chest ; _ = empty

Now the 3 Star quest for this stage is to clear the round within 15 turns.

Problem 1:
To wipe the chests with high hp, the smartest way is to pull the #1 or #4 chest in front of #3. You will need a Chaos Knight, Warlord or Ninja. (Can't remember the others) All 5* units. Max 5* potential units are hard to come by and if you do get one at 3* you need to raise (please don't forget this game started on Nov.1) or god forbid at 4* at the wrong tree. JUST to accommodate this quest.

Problem 2:
The 3 Star quest requirement gives you a turn limit so you either destroy the sturdy chests quickly or wait for them to explode, wasting turns. 

Problem 3:
The 2 Star requirement for the legendary stages restricts you from bringing a specific class. This is an issue for a THREE WEEK old game, that have only increased the rates for 4* event units.
Imagine within those 3 weeks all you've pulled are Luthors and Vincents and you're faced with this quest that requires you not to bring a champion or a healer. What are you gonna do with your team of Berserker, Gladiator, Dragoon, and Warlord. What now? Should I kowtow and take it like a b word? That's it? I'll just resign myself not to complete an event that's meant to bring joy and diversity to the game? 

Why is there such a wall between having fun and just getting leftovers? I don't want to feel like 'oh I should I just be grateful that I can get Job Keys'. That's not a nice way to feel when you're playing a game.

I don't want it to be easy, I want it to be fair. They should think of what RESOURCE they would require from the players to finish the event. Should it be their a) time b) money c) knowledge/strategy. You can't ask for all of the above and think the players won't notice something.

My biggest gripe is for a 3 week old game is that they seem to be thinking too much on how to regulate the old beta players (no hate here!) from bulldozing the event that they forgot that there's new players to cater to. 

It's like a parent doting on their college student child and forgetting that she gave birth to a baby yesterday.
I have 9 victorias and 7 zedds
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:55 am

F2P will truly be dead if they relaunch the pre-nerf LULU EVENT. Before that happen, just be grateful that event item now can be exchanged for some form of rewards in the bazaar. 
F2P should really try the pre-nerf LULU. When things gets tough and unbeatable, just remember lulu.
Why do people keep bringing out old things that new players may not know or even care of? Events that transpired during BETA an exclusive and closed testing phase. Those events should be stepping stones, not a rebuttal in a discussion. 

Why are F2P and New Players forced to be "grateful"? Why are they being oppressed? They should be given opportunities not restrictions. Just like how we all should appreciate P2P players.

 A public event should be accessible. There should be stairs and elevators but at the end of the day they should lead to the same place. 
That's why the wipe should have taken place. Learn from history, not repeat it. No ww2 veteran is running around shouting "GLAD I KILLED THE GERMANS/JAPS YOU UNGRATEFUL AND DAMNED MILLENNIALS". Don't force them out, encourage them to pay. Like I said, unless you want new players to uninstall within 2 days when they find out there is a huge wall they can't climb, continue shoving this "I'm beta hence im superior" crap around.
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:00 am

Did you all check 100% chest reward? Its nothing. 3 star useless healer, 250 gems and 5 job keys, random skill rune ticket and a 200k gold. If only rewards were better than this I could understand the QQ for the 7 pages but QQing for this. Well, I dont know. Last event chest gave us 5 star fodder to reroll faith or just to use him but this chest gives us 3 star character. Yes, you can promote it to 5 star but if you check stats and skills you can see its way inferior than gatcha characters. You will need to waste energy/gold to promote her if you want to max her in the end.
If it's nothing, don't bother doing it then. Just go play other games or 100% completion for story.
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:51 am

What i don't understand is that this event has a shorter duration and much higher difficulty lol
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